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Remind me again how you don't have a report from an engineer examining your car?
Oh, that's right---it was driver error...
Yea why not rtry and just put the car in nutreal and then hit the brakes
Are you running out of material? You've used this one 100 times, and you've been wrong every time. Remember? It turned out to be the floormat that caused it.
Here we go again with another idiotic, inane comment from a left-wing, nut-job liberal with no grasp of reality. Never mind the self-serving plug for his/her little cult and blog that nobody reads, not to mention the moronic endorsement of the paid fraud barr. The problem is a lack of education, mixed with senility along with being incapable of finding their own way out of a paper bag.
Saudi Arabia knows what to do - why not the NHTSA?
I never owned one but am always concerned for friends and family who do.
There should be a push to force Toyota to install brake override on all that have the electronics and code evaluated by the 12 experts - NASA did not have the source code for their review.
From:
http://www.albawaba.com/bus...
Over 141,000 Toyota and Lexus cars recalled over dangers of sudden
acceleration The recall of as many as 141,007 Toyota and Lexus cars has been initiated in the sultanate to install Smart Stop Technology, a brake override system, in
their vehicles to curtail dangers associated with sudden acceleration.
With regard to Toyota SUA, sudden unintended acceleration, there remain some very tough questions for Toyota, the NHTSA, and the DOJ to answer:
1) Why haven't Professor David Gilbert's and embedded systems expert Michael Barr's findings of an electronic fault without adequate fail-safe in the Toyota ETCS been fully examined?
2) Why hasn't Dr. Antony Anderson's logical debunking of NHTSA's 1989 driver error determination of SUA been considered?
3) Why haven't the Toyota internal documents of Toyota Whistleblower, Betsy Benjaminson, been acknowledged and accepted as evidence in Toyota's criminal investigation? Toyota engineers admit concern about the "ghost in the machine" and the unpredictability of the performance of the ETCS.
4) Why are the Toyota owners both the field-testers and fail-safe applicators for their own vehicles' questionably-designed ETCS?
5) Most importantly, how many more deaths have to occur before someone takes charge of permanently eliminating the unacceptable risks to both the Toyota drivers and those they encounter on the roads and highways?
I see you're busy troll-spamming another site eh, Lunatic?
Twit..
Not tough at all, actually.
Answered:
1) paid frauds
2) paid fraud
3)fat transvestite who stole internal toyota documents ( none of which really prove anything she/he claims) and fled the country like a coward.
4) they're not. That's just stupid.
5) depends how many more old ladies commit driver error. Maybe a mandatory driving test annually at age 65 is in order...although it may need to start lower for some..
You may be unaware of it, but the NHTSA investigations into the Toyota SUA problem, one of which included a very short-duration study by NASA, were found to be flawed for a number of reasons by more than one expert electronics engineer. First, the study was very time-limited. Therefore. testing was inadequate/incomplete.
Secondly, Toyota did not supply a critical piece of information (intentional?) to NASA and as a result, NASA omitted some important testing. Because of the flawed nature of that study, the conclusions drawn are erroneous. Aside from this fact, NASA did not find a defect within the scope of its investigation. NOTE: NASA did not and could not conclude that one did not exist.
Those of us who are very concerned about Toyota sudden unintended acceleration rely on the findings of such reknowned embedded systems experts as Michael Barr, independent electrical engineering consultant Dr. Antony Anderson, Dr. Henning Leidecker, Dr. Ron Belt, and Dr. David Gilbert, among others.
Michael Barr's study of Toyota's electronic throttle control system was not the time-limited one that NASA's study was. In addition, far more testing of possible code errors was done. A critical finding was that when a specific error in code occurred in the ETCS-I software, it could not only cause an open throttle condition but it could also result in a no fail-safe situation. That is a deadly situation, I'm sure you will agree!
Why was the NHTSA's study so limited in scope? Why haven't the findings of the above expert engineers been factored in? Why has the emphasis been totally on mechanical or external causes of Toyota SUA? Why the media spin that there is no electronic cause for Toyota's SUA when the spin is based on flawed studies? Is it because Toyota doesn't want to bow to public pressure to do the right thing?
Charlene McCarthy Blake
Was that after you wrote a twit about it, twit?
You are unaware that NHTSA and NASA had unrestricted access to Toyota's information for about 10 months. That's hardly a "very short-duration" or "limited in scope." Also, the National Academy of Sciences backed up the NHTSA/NASA study and its closure.
These are real unbiased, independent experts that have no ulterior motives like your so called "experts." Yours were paid for by shyster lawyers suing for money.
Why would you believe people who were paid to lie? Why doesn't this defect occur in vehicles with a manual transmission? Why does it discriminate against old ladies? Why hasn't there been a verified case of electronically caused SUA? (Other than the frivolous claims by lawyers and their paid frauds that you cite) What reason does toyota have to recall that many vehicles and not fix your disproven "defect"? Are you as crazy as you sound, Ignoramus?
disqus_opJ5VKk8FJ – care to provide the information “hidden” by all the “redactions” in the NHTSA/NASA report ? And “do explain” why NASA didn’t look at the embedded software in the “monitor chip” at all which was there to provide for the safety of Toyota’s ETCS-I (electronic throttle control system with intelligence) -- eh?
I'm still waiting for you to explain why there's no report from an engineer or even a mechanic that examined your car...
Sure--after you explain how an ETC system works and how this "defect" of yours doesn't effect manual transmission cars and how it's almost exclusively old ladies that encounter this "defect" of yours and how Edmunds offer of $1 million to ANYONE who could put forth a plausible reason for SUA went unclaimed and the connection between the brakes and the ETC. Can you answer any of those questions, Ignoramus? Eh?
SUA doesn't happen in manual transmission Toyotas? FALSE!
Check out 2010 Toyota COROLLA on arfc dot org! Plenty of complaints there!
Problem is not isolated to automatic transmission OR "little old ladies" as you suggest! Far from it...
Just as I predicted: you can't answer any of those questions. I almost feel bad for you--you're such a dunce.
Wrong again, Ignoramus.
Old drivers are dangerous. You should turn in your keys.
Read and pretend it's not real like you always do, Ignoramus:
"A 1996 study of such incidents by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) Office of Defects Investigation powerfully supports this. Its analysis of drivers of General Motors cars found those over age 69 had almost seven times the number of SUA accidents per driver as those under age 38. This is yet more stunning considering that the elderly account for merely 3% of all miles driven."
Please see comments and references above.
Which piece of your spam propaganda are you talking about? You can't answer basic questions?
Oh, the nut house is taking away your computer privileges for the night? Okay, hopefully you won't have any more inane nonsense and spam propaganda tomorrow, but somehow I doubt it...
disqus_opJ5VKk8FJ - care to explain why Toyota told NHTSA/NASA they had error detection and correction code (EDAC) when they actually didn't -- eh?
A Case Study of Toyota Unintended Acceleration and Software Safety
Oct 3, 2014: updated with video of the lecture
(Dr. Philip Koopman, Carnegie Mellon University)
(one hour video presentation starts at the 1:15 min mark)
(among other issues discussed and described)
1. Failsafes: 19:58 – 20:58 min marks
2. Blackbox (EDR) data (brake) errors: 20:55 – 21:23 min marks
3. Brake Echo check: 34:50 - 36:09 min marks
4. Cosmic rays / hardware failures 36:10 – 38:57 min marks
http://betterembsw.blogspot...
I see a yellow line by my comment above. This means someone reported it and it is slated for REMOVAL! Now...WHO could that possibly be? The comment is fact-based about Toyota and Lexus ELECTRONIC sudden unintended acceleration!
That's not what it means, moron. You probably just clicked it yourself or something. But if your garbage is removed, it's a good thing--nobody needs to see your spam-propaganda.
Seriously, you just jump to the dumbest conclusion possible in every scenario, don't you?
Oh, and if by "fact-based", you mean not fact-based at all and a complete fabrication, then yes, that describes all your comments.
I did create a tweet with the information in it. I agree that it is a part of the Toyota unintended acceleration story that needs to be told. Anyone who might protest this happening must be concerned about the content of the document.
Better tighten up that tin-foil hat of yours, Ignoramus. It's cold tonight and you don't want the UFO's to read your mind or whatever you believe...
You can understand fiction? Also, you should look up what that word twit means, you twit.
Ignoramus, care to explain the name of the lawyer this fraud you cite worked for? Eh? This idiot actually talked about cosmic rays? Was there a section on UFO's too?
Perhaps you should actually read the NASA report so you don't sound so stupid...
Agree 100%! It is a very enlightening document that tells far more than the intentionally limited NHTSA/NASA study! Seems Toyota has crafted the "story" about sudden unintended acceleration it wants the public to know. However, it has conveniently omitted key documents and expert findings that show how it can occur in the all electronic throttle control system when the code is sub-standard.
The PR spin is alive and well at Toyota as well as with its $$friends! "Driver error" is claimed in all cases possible! When that won't work, it tries "medical condition" or "medical emergency" or any other number of excuses! It is a statistical IMPOSSIBILITY for drivers to be making this "pedal misapplication" error as often as Toyota claims!
Do a Google Alert for Toyota and crashes into storefronts. Use the words "slammed," "plowed," "careened," etc. Use the word "airborne" too because that is what some of the runaway Toyota and Lexus vehicles become...even in parking lots! This is NO JOKE!
Toyota can't close Pandora's Box! The "gems" within have been exposed! All it can do is cover up with empty rhetoric! As you say, that's too late. The Robert & Ruginis Toyota Corolla sudden unintended acceleration case will be watched closely!
Will Toyota's lapdog, NHTSA, simply deny the defect investigation petition as the professional provocateur gloats in comments? Or will the public demand that this investigation open and remain open until an embedded software expert carefully examines the all-electronic throttle control system for glitches that can lead to ineffective fail-safes in runaway situations?
Haha! You two twits are nuttier than a Chinese Chicken salad! Seriously, you know that Santa Clause isn't real, right? Or do you believe in that too?
Or nobody cares what you idiots ramble on about...
Besides, Toyota's "fangs" have come out with each new expert who uncovers more on how Toyota's vehicles become runaways! The experts are attacked publicly as being "hacks" or doing something "shady."
In fact, the only shady hack has been Toyota who has admitted to lying to customers, lawmakers, and NHTSA! It's ironic this deferred-prosecution criminal corporation is now trying to discredit and ultimately destroy (?) world-renowned experts in the field of ELECTRONICS!
Do you suppose the automaker is that desperate to keep the BIG SECRET about electronically-induced sudden unintended acceleration hidden?
Haha, "world-renowned"...ha! Good one, Ignoramus!
I have to add that even the Toyota and Lexus drivers have been character assassinated publicly when they hold to the fact that they were BRAKING when the unintended acceleration initiated! Just look what happened to the Prius owner, James Sikes! Did Toyota cronies get his credit reports to find dirt? Do they violate HIPAA regulations to smear SUA victims or those involved in lawsuits with them? Just ask these similarly-affected Toyota owners!
It's good for people who like fiction, or for people who are too stupid to know the difference, like you...the rest of us can stick with the facts of the NASA report.
Ah, professional provocateur is concerned about the Robert & Kathy Ruginis defective Toyota Corolla case! And rightly so as here are the earmarks of a major automotive scandal!
Censorship and critic discrediting is in full force by Toyota $$friends as professional provocateur has pointed out, especially when it concerns evidence of electronic glitches which cause Toyota and Lexus vehicles to become uncontrollable and unstoppable! Why these glitches often cause these vehicles to become airborne just prior to a horrific crash!
So do you also believe that the moon-landing and the holocaust never happened? Do you believe in the Easter bunny and unicorns too? Since you have nothing to prove your brainless theory about SUA or that people are getting paid to prove you wrong, you just come off as an ignorant, desperate troll. Hence your name, Ignoramus.
Seriously, you have a mental disability.
Here we go again with another "performance" by the auto industry's little lapdog. Never mind NHTSA's complicity in GM's ignition-switch scandal and Takata's exploding airbags, not to mention NHTSA's refusal to address evidence GALORE - presented by embedded systems expert MIchael Barr - of electronic defects in Toyota's throttle control. The problem is a corporate-controlled government - Repukes n Demagogues alike - incapable of taking action against its murderous, blood-drenched cohorts in the auto industry. I've been blogging about the situation - search "Beware of Toyota. Their next victim may be YOU..."